Windows 10 seems to work OK

RogerClark
Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:59 am
Hi Guys,

Although not a definitive test, because I’m running W10 on a virtual machine inside W7…

The Windows drivers load OK, and I can see the devices, upload code and see stuff printed out in the serial terminal.

However as I’m using a VM I had to put the board into perpetual bootloader in order to upload, as I could not get seem to set the VM up to automatically allow

If anyone else using a real piece of W10 hardware could confirm it works for them, that would be great.

Note. I’ve only tested with the Maple mini and not the generic boards.

Edit.

I gave up on the VM and installed onto a spare HD…

So.. For me, W10 is working for both Maple mini and generic STM32 boards (using the bootloader)

This doesn’t mean it will work on everyone’s Windows hardware, but it definitely works on my 5 year old hardware (test machine)


Vassilis
Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:01 am
I have been using the windows 10 since summer 2015, without any problem with my STM32 devices. The devices with maple mini and generic bootloader are correctly recognized by windows 10. I use stm32duino and arduino ide 1.6.5.

RogerClark
Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:57 am
Thanks Vassilis

I won’t normally be using W10, as I’m happy with my W7 installation, but I had to install W10 on a test machine for work purposes, so I thought I may as well test STM32


stevech
Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:09 pm
same here. I have win10 on an older laptop. After finding a start menu/desktop explorer replacement for win10 that makes it look like the sensible win7 desktop, I can tolerate win10. But like rocks in your shoes, why do I need this bling and change from MS?

RogerClark
Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:14 pm
I run classic shell on W7 and put it on W10 to make it a bit more usable for work purposes.

Prior to installing classic shell on W10 it was a nightmare to find the device manager as even the in built search thingy defaults to bing rather than finding the program I want to run.

In a lot of respects the need to have that feature where you have to type the name of the program you want to run, shows a fundamental problem with the UI.

But I guess we are in the 0.0001% minority as we don’t use a PC as purely a portal to Facebook.

Actually, I didn’t check what version of W10 installed. I used by Windows 7 Ultimate product key, but when i downloaded the W10 ISO I don’t recall any options for which version I wanted.


stevech
Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:42 pm
Long ago I concluded that in order to feed the employees, add more unneeded employees, and pay a small dividend to shareholders, Microsoft has to declare obsolescence and force people to pay for changing the color of the lipstick. Otherwise revenue goes towards 0. As the old joke said.. if Microsoft made cars…

racemaniac
Sat Feb 20, 2016 8:28 pm
I just received one of those cheap chinese intel atom mini pc’s with windows 10 on them, and arduino & stm32duino works perfectly on it :).
Makes a great and cheap little pc for developing on :).

stevech
Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:09 pm
racemaniac wrote:I just received one of those cheap chinese intel atom mini pc’s with windows 10 on them, and arduino & stm32duino works perfectly on it :).
Makes a great and cheap little pc for developing on :).

racemaniac
Sat Feb 20, 2016 9:11 pm
stevech wrote:racemaniac wrote:I just received one of those cheap chinese intel atom mini pc’s with windows 10 on them, and arduino & stm32duino works perfectly on it :).
Makes a great and cheap little pc for developing on :).

RogerClark
Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:11 pm
Can you post a link

racemaniac
Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:27 pm
RogerClark wrote:Can you post a link

RogerClark
Sun Feb 21, 2016 2:59 am
Thanks

I’m not a big fan of W10 but small cheap PC’s come in handy!

I suspect these boxes would equally well run W7 or Linux


stevech
Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:45 am
Those boxes seem to be focused on those who run XBMC in their home theater/big screen room.
500MHz quad core. Hardware assisted video decoding and HDMI output so CPU isn’t that heavily loaded. (no transcoding).
I have something akin but it’s based on a mini-ITX mainboard, much larger/faster.

racemaniac
Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:11 am
stevech wrote:Those boxes seem to be focused on those who run XBMC in their home theater/big screen room.
500MHz quad core. Hardware assisted video decoding and HDMI output so CPU isn’t that heavily loaded. (no transcoding).
I have something akin but it’s based on a mini-ITX mainboard, much larger/faster.

RogerClark
Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:11 pm
Thanks

I’ve tried things like those Android USB sticks, (over a year ago), but the performance was not good. However they are probably better now.

2Gb Ram will probably be the limiting factor for W7 and W10. From what I recall, the OS on its own takes more than 2Gb, so 4Gb is a more practical size.
I guess SSD will help with the RAM issue, but its not an ideal situation.

But you get what you pay for ;-)


racemaniac
Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:49 am
RogerClark wrote:Thanks

I’ve tried things like those Android USB sticks, (over a year ago), but the performance was not good. However they are probably better now.

2Gb Ram will probably be the limiting factor for W7 and W10. From what I recall, the OS on its own takes more than 2Gb, so 4Gb is a more practical size.
I guess SSD will help with the RAM issue, but its not an ideal situation.

But you get what you pay for ;-)


mrburnette
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:33 pm
Abundant use of “$miles” in one post does incur a fee. :o

darth_llamah
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:45 pm
RogerClark wrote:2Gb Ram will probably be the limiting factor for W7 and W10. From what I recall, the OS on its own takes more than 2Gb, so 4Gb is a more practical size.

racemaniac
Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:03 pm
mrburnette wrote:Abundant use of “$miles” in one post does incur a fee. :o

mrbwa1
Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:36 pm
2GB of RAM should be okay, especially if you turn off a lot of features and visualizations. Even on Windows 7 low end boxes, I would often turn off visual effects to speed them up.

My kid has an HP Stream 7 tablet with 1GB of ram and it runs Windows 8.1 okay (Need to look at upgrading it to Windows 10).

I have an old backup box around here with 1GB or RAM and a Celeron 3GHz single core processor. The single core processor struggles with Windows 10, but can just barely run the 32 bit version (you really don’t want the 64 bit version with 1-2GB of RAM).


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