Genuino 101

ahull
Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:26 am
Arduino announce the Arduino/Genuino 101 – an Intel based arduino– but the real question you have to ask is what is it for?

It ain’t a Pi killer, and it ain’t cheap… and it ain’t ARM based.. and it ain’t capable of running Windoze… so who is likely to use it?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ … lts-alike/


mrburnette
Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:30 am
IMO, this is an Intel ploy to become relavant in the education market where they have traditionally not had much exposure.
Arduino 101 will be incorporated into the Creative Technologies in the Classroom (CTC) physical computing curriculum developed and tested by our team and currently deployed in over 300 schools. CTC is the world’s first formal physical computing curriculum for elementary and secondary school classrooms and provides educators with the tools, support and confidence needed to introduce their students to the foundations of programming, electronics and mechanics.

YAC (yet another compiler) to install, I suspect. Maybe those terabyte notebook drives will become necessary.

Ray


ahull
Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:54 am
More outlandish embellishment CTC is the world’s first formal physical computing curriculum for elementary and secondary school classrooms I take it we have been teaching non physical computing all these years. If you ever dropped a BBC Micro, or Commodore Pet on your foot, you would know computers can be pretty physical things.

mrburnette
Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:13 pm
ahull wrote:More outlandish embellishment
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ahull
Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:31 pm
mrburnette wrote:
With the original Arduino 8-bit boards, changes were slow, but the knowledge base and libraries grew and newbies had mounds of technical material and a ready base of code and many active forum membets to help them mature. Those days may be gone forever. Here in the STM32 forum, I have been amazed at the quickness of fragmentation of interest – not that it is a bad thing, just an obvious evolution.

Ray


stevech
Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:32 pm
ahull wrote:Arduino announce the Arduino/Genuino 101 – an Intel based arduino– but the real question you have to ask is what is it for?

It ain’t a Pi killer, and it ain’t cheap… and it ain’t ARM based.. and it ain’t capable of running Windoze… so who is likely to use it?

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ … lts-alike/


RogerClark
Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:00 am
I guess they have received a large injection of cash from Intel ;-)

One thing that struck me looking at the blog post was

80 kB of SRAM (24kB available for sketches)

Why only 24k for sketches ? What’s it doing with the 56k. Why bother saying its got 80k when its not usable.

Well, perhaps its accessible by some functions for data storage, e.g. a bit like the PROGMEM stuff in AVR.

But it smacks of marking hype when they don’t say 24k SRAM

PS. I considered posting this as a response to that blog posting,but it looks like the “Arduino” account required to post is not the same as the forum account… So I can’t really be bothered, as I suspect that if I posted that they’d take down responses that were negative


mrburnette
Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:59 pm
RogerClark wrote:<…>
Why only 24k for sketches ? What’s it doing with the 56k. Why bother saying its got 80k when its not usable.
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madias
Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:45 pm
No no, you get the additional 64KB back If you buy a “pro license” of the Genuino 101 :)

RogerClark
Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:52 pm
(LOL)

and its 56k not 64 for some reason…. i.e 80 – 24 = 56 when I was at school … (Ray ;-) )


ahull
Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:42 pm
Nope the 56k is for the NSA to put their spyware in :twisted:

mrburnette
Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:12 am
RogerClark wrote:(LOL)

and its 56k not 64 for some reason…. i.e 80 – 24 = 56 when I was at school … (Ray ;-) )


mrbwa1
Tue Oct 20, 2015 4:39 pm
From what I have read, the Curie is an all-in-one SoC for wearable aimed at the Cortex-M0. In this space, it would seem that the “killer app” would be battery life, since most trackers need a daily charge.

The irony of wearables is that the Xiaomi Mi Band I have sports a Cortex-M0 and uses a very basic 3 LED status array on the device activated by a gesture and relies on bluetooth offload to an app to give you details. Even with a dinky 40mAh battery, I can get > 30 days between charges. Handy because I mainly use it as a sleep tracker and as a silent alarm because it has a built in haptic motor. I think my wife appreciates not having a blaring alarm at 5:30am when she doesn’t have to be up that early.

Back on topic, I find the Curie a strange choice since it’s aimed at wearables. Perhaps they are trying to leverage Arduino for RAD? I suppose teaching folks to program for IMUs would be neat, but we are already seeing stuff like the BOSCH BNO055 that has a Cortex built in and spits out absolute orientations so that the host uC doesnt need to do the crunching.


RogerClark
Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:45 pm

The irony of wearables is that the Xiaomi Mi Band I have sports a Cortex-M0 and uses a very basic 3 LED status array on the device activated by a gesture and relies on bluetooth offload to an app to give you details

BLE SOC devices seem to be very much coming to the fore at the moment.

The new BBC micro uses a Nordic BLE device as well.

The older BLE devices like the TI CC2540/2541 were only powered by 8051 derivatives ( albeit powerful derivatives), but the Nordic devices are ARM and could be used to replace a lot if existing MCU + separate BLE products

I have a few Nordic based BLE modules that I was hoping to experiment with, but there are never enough hours in the day


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