$5 Raspberry Pi Zero

stevech
Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:11 am
availability of Raspberry Pi Zero, made in Wales and priced at just $5. Zero is a full-fledged member of the Raspberry Pi family, featuring:

A Broadcom BCM2835 application processor
1GHz ARM11 core (40% faster than Raspberry Pi 1)
512MB of LPDDR2 SDRAM
A micro-SD card slot
A mini-HDMI socket for 1080p60 video output
Micro-USB sockets for data and power
An unpopulated 40-pin GPIO header
Identical pinout to Model A+/B+/2B
An unpopulated composite video header
Our smallest ever form factor, at 65mm x 30mm x 5mm
[no ethernet. Perhaps WiFi USB dongle instead]

Raspberry Pi Zero runs Raspbian and all your favourite applications, including Scratch, Minecraft and Sonic Pi. It is available today in the UK from our friends at element14, The Pi Hut and Pimoroni, and in the US from Adafruit and in-store at your local branch of Micro Center. We’ve built several tens of thousands of units so far, and are building more, but we expect demand to outstrip supply for the next little while.

One more thing: because the only thing better than a $5 computer is a free computer, we are giving away a free Raspberry Pi Zero on the front of each copy of the December issue of The MagPi, which arrives in UK stores today. Russell, Rob and the team have been killing themselves putting this together, and we’re very pleased with how it’s turned out. The issue is jam-packed with everything you need to know about Zero, including a heap of project ideas, and an interview with Mike Stimson, who designed the board.
MagPi #40 in all its glory

https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero


zoomx
Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:18 am
viewtopic.php?f=45&t=761

$5 is only and ads, on Element14 is 12.8 euro before tax and shipping.


Vassilis
Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:50 am
I already have the Raspberry Pi 1 (RP1) model b and RP2 but that version is very tiny.
I think I will buy it!

martinayotte
Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:45 pm
No ethernet, only one USB. $5, yes, but adding shipping make it almost the same price of the OrangePi-PC that I’ve received last week.

Vassilis
Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:14 pm
It’s a new product. I think in a few months the total price will be reduced.

stevech
Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:50 pm
martinayotte wrote:No ethernet, only one USB. $5, yes, but adding shipping make it almost the same price of the OrangePi-PC that I’ve received last week.

stevech
Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:50 pm
zoomx wrote:
$5 is only and ads, on Element14 is 12.8 euro before tax and shipping.

stevech
Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:52 pm
Lack of ethernet… I presume you can plug in a low cost WiFi USB dongle

stevech
Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:52 pm
stevech wrote:Lack of ethernet… I presume you can plug in a low cost WiFi USB dongle and USB hub. And use VNC

stevech
Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:11 pm
https://www.adafruit.com/product/2885
product ID is shown.

The makers’ (UK) video said they build 10,000 in the first run.

I have two RPi’s already. The price and size of the zero is appealing.

I’m now into doing embedded work with low cost board using Python and not struggling with Arduino.
I flashed Particle.io’s Photon WiFi board with their port of Python 3. Nice. Cheaper than the microPython board.
But the RPi’s are so much easier to “get ‘er done”, with Python, Javascript, C, lots of I/O libraries.

I think the bytecode interpreters like Python, eLua, Javascript are the way to go with embedded tinkering, these days, on sub-$20 boards.


martinayotte
Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:28 pm
stevech wrote:Adafruit’s shipping is that much?

zoomx
Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:33 pm
Vassilis wrote:It’s a new product. I think in a few months the total price will be reduced.

mrburnette
Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:49 am
stevech wrote:
《…》
I think the bytecode interpreters like Python, eLua, Javascript are the way to go with embedded tinkering, these days, on sub-$20 boards.

stevech
Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:48 am
mrburnette wrote:stevech wrote:
《…》
I think the bytecode interpreters like Python, eLua, Javascript are the way to go with embedded tinkering, these days, on sub-$20 boards.

racemaniac
Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:07 am
Nice to see some constructive discussion on this new raspberry pi here :)
Most big sites (slashdot, hackaday,…) are an absolute disaster >_<. nobody seeing the potential of such a cheap raspberry :)

I hope to soon lay my hands on a few, and i’ve got some projects in mind where arduino/stm32 boards just don’t have the processing power/memory/… to handle some more complex audiovisual stuff, and cheap&small boards like this are just what i’ve been waiting for to do that :). Possibly with an arduino/stm32 in between for better io support in some cases :).
Already ordered a few dirt cheap raspberry compatible wifi dongles from china to give them some basic network connectivity :).

These new cheap mini pc’s are going to be a great addition the the 5$ range of boards to do awesome stuff with :).

And the launch being a bit messy is kind of expected i guess. The uk retailer pihut was the best i think, there you could buy a plain one (4£), with only 2.5£ of shipping to entire europe, so that was about 9€ for a standard board delivered. But we’ll have to be a bit patient for more to be built, and it becoming available in local shops :).


mrburnette
Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:21 pm
[quote=”stevech”
]<…>
Your comment on not using for products… maybe. But I’ve used Python for two products, one running embedded on a humble microprocessor. It worked very well. The product that it ran on was a programmable wireless/wired gateway for sensors. Successful deployments. Simplified skill level needed to customize.[/quote]

I was thinking about consumer products where a hiccup in the interpreter or c-lib might cause a critical failure. Non-compiled languages are notorious for house-cleaning stalls and non-consistent timing profiles. Consumer libility concerns is one of the main expense to designing computing into end user products; automobiles come to mind, but smart home products may soon overtake the uC penetration in numbers.

I certainly would not want to be driving my car on wet pavement and have to panic stop when the anti skid computer decided it needed to house clean RAM.

But, yes, there are many places where an interpreter is appropriate. But the Engineer in me is always wanting to qualify those examples with professional concerns as not all programmers have an engineering background firmly planted with an ethical foundation. Yea, I’m Old School taught.

Ray


mankan
Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:52 pm
I’ve designed products with a byte code interpreter* on nineties PIC models running the program from SPI memory. We had 96 bytes of stack of 192 bytes of RAM and we crammed the sh** out of the PIC to the level that Microchip was thinking about buying us. Motorola did, but that was 10 years later for completely different reasons.

* We had our own custom high level language and IDE/compiler that partners and customers could use to write programs.


simonf
Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:33 am
Well I think this would make a great data collector for a home energy system or home automation.

You can get one of these FREE ***GRATIS*** on the front of a magazine call pihut Cost about $10 US

Everyone seems to be in upraw about its lack of networking and usb ports but the usbchip and the network chip on the pi eats power. Who wants to wire an IOT device WIFI costs us$4 via a OTG adapter http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Android- … 86756.html and http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Lower-pr … 69959.html

As for the lack of usbs for an embeded solution 1 is enough for the wifi dongle. If you need more http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multi-Fu … 92652.html should do the job at UD$3 delivered it also gives you an opportunity to add more storage via Sd of TF cards. so you could mount the OS on a r/o Partition and store the data on an external tf card.

You can even get a 3.5″ touch display for it for usd12 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rasberry … 31461.html

So you could make yourself a wifi controller for your central heating system with a touch screen and web interface for around us$30. PI + PSU +WIFI MODUAL +LCD +RELAY BOARD +LCD DISPLAY +4GB MICROSD+ 2 GANG BACK BOX+ DS18B20 . power consumption <10W anual running cost <$1.50. OH and a couple of weeks of your LIFE.


stevech
Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:03 am
mankan wrote:I’ve designed products with a byte code interpreter* on nineties PIC models running the program from SPI memory. We had 96 bytes of stack of 192 bytes of RAM …

stevech
Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:06 am
racemaniac wrote:Nice to see some constructive discussion on this new raspberry pi here :)
Most big sites (slashdot, hackaday,…) are an absolute disaster >_<. nobody seeing the potential of such a cheap raspberry

racemaniac
Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:01 pm
simonf wrote:Well I think this would make a great data collector for a home energy system or home automation.

You can get one of these FREE ***GRATIS*** on the front of a magazine call pihut Cost about $10 US

Everyone seems to be in upraw about its lack of networking and usb ports but the usbchip and the network chip on the pi eats power. Who wants to wire an IOT device WIFI costs us$4 via a OTG adapter http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Android- … 86756.html and http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Lower-pr … 69959.html

As for the lack of usbs for an embeded solution 1 is enough for the wifi dongle. If you need more http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Multi-Fu … 92652.html should do the job at UD$3 delivered it also gives you an opportunity to add more storage via Sd of TF cards. so you could mount the OS on a r/o Partition and store the data on an external tf card.

You can even get a 3.5″ touch display for it for usd12 http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rasberry … 31461.html

So you could make yourself a wifi controller for your central heating system with a touch screen and web interface for around us$30. PI + PSU +WIFI MODUAL +LCD +RELAY BOARD +LCD DISPLAY +4GB MICROSD+ 2 GANG BACK BOX+ DS18B20 . power consumption <10W anual running cost <$1.50. OH and a couple of weeks of your LIFE.


stevech
Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:30 am
Short video, well done

http://raspi.tv/2015/raspberry-pi-zero- … i-magazine


stevech
Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:13 am
Update… 6 December 2015
Adafruit’s $5 RPi zero arrived today.
With a micro-USB to full USB cable adapter plugged into a USB hub, keyboard, mouse and WiFi dongle plugged into hub, and HDMI to monitor… I backed up then booted the uSD card with RPi “Jessie” distribution.
Came up right away, correct resolution (1920×1080) on my monitor! No struggles to get the video mode correct.
Took me a few minutes to realize that the WiFi driver is already installed and there’s an icon for it, top right of desktop. Click that, choose my SSID, enter password and ta-da, I’m on yahoo.com

Now, on to installing VNC server on the RPi zero so I can disconnect the keyboard/mouse/monitor and run headless. Remote connect using VNC client on whatever PC. I’ve done this for a long time with the older RPi’s.

I noticed that this kernel has drivers for SPI, I2C and other stuff built-in.

Nice.


zoomx
Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:11 am
Sometimes some of the drivers are inactive, you have to look in raspi-config.

zmemw16
Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:06 am
and install the dev files for headers etc?

stephen


Vassilis
Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:17 pm
@stevech If you want to add an SPI Ethernet module based on ENC28J60 controller to your Raspberry Pi Zero see this link

zoomx
Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:26 pm
zmemw16 wrote:and install the dev files for headers etc?

stevech
Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:10 am
Vassilis wrote:@stevech If you want to add an SPI Ethernet module based on ENC28J60 controller to your Raspberry Pi Zero see this link

stevech
Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:07 am
update to update

RPi zero.. humming along. $5 WiFi dongle.
Now running VNC so I no longer need a USB Hub + keyboard/mouse to access the ‘Zero using SSH/telnet or browser to VNC and desktop.
Able to have automatic event based emails sent from the ‘Zero via gmail which requires SSL. Uses about 10 lines of Python code.

Also have SMB configured so the ‘Zero can use my LAN’s NAS for storage rather than solely the SD card in the ‘Zero.

Python working nice.

The Jessie Linux kernel on the ‘Zero says it has drivers for SPI, I2C in addition to GPIO and serial.

Not bad for about $10 plus a spare USB phone charger for powering the RPi.


martinayotte
Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:57 am
Which USB-WiFi dongle did you choose ?
By experience on other platforms, the RTL8188 is the easier I found while the MT7601 was a trouble .

stevech
Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:26 am
martinayotte wrote:Which USB-WiFi dongle did you choose ?
By experience on other platforms, the RTL8188 is the easier I found while the MT7601 was a trouble .

racemaniac
Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:06 pm
I don’t know if you guys have been keeping an eye on it, but yesterday when pihut & pimoroni had new stock i ordered 1 :)
i hope it arrives soon :).
But atm you really have to keep an eye on it, i was subscribed on their mailing list, but after some looking around last weekend i found the announcement that they’d release their new stock monday at noon uk time, so i made sure i’d be ready to order one immediately :).

stevech
Wed Dec 16, 2015 4:03 am
I’d like to pose a question to get opinions on this:

Many people talk about what a Linux board, esp. now with the $5+x = $12 w/networking, CANNOT do.
There is 16MHz+ SPI
There is fast GPIO
There are 15 DMA channels
There is C and Python and Java and visual programming.

I can think of a few edge cases that are too time- or latency sensitive that even the above can’t do well.
But are there REALLY very many such projects – considering all people interested in IoT and makers and all?


ahull
Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:25 am
stevech wrote:
I can think of a few edge cases that are too time- or latency sensitive that even the above can’t do well.
But are there REALLY very many such projects – considering all people interested in IoT and makers and all?

RogerClark
Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:58 pm
The strange thing is… I have a RPi, but have never found a use for it.

I suspect the same would apply to the Zero, but I will buy few and put them in the box of other unused processor boards.

As most people have a mobile phone, which has better capabilities than the RPi, I find myself just leveraging this capability using devices like the ESP8266 and the nRF51822.


stevech
Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:38 pm
the RPi zero, due to its small size, low cost, cheap networking via WiFi dongle or USB->ethernet, seems to me to change the game.
I have 2 or 3 hobby projects in home automation for which the above are a good fit.

martinayotte
Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:50 am
Some of you remember that I’ve received some OrangePi-PC at $15 few weeks ago ?
I re-iterate with a new order, 2 other boards should come soon, maybe not for Christmas, but maybe for New Year :-)
Also, I’ve plegged for one PineA64, but delivery will me only late March 2016 …

RogerClark
Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:00 am
martinayotte wrote:Some of you remember that I’ve received some OrangePi-PC at $15 few weeks ago ?
I re-iterate with a new order, 2 other boards should come soon, maybe not for Christmas, but maybe for New Year :-)
Also, I’ve plegged for one PineA64, but delivery will me only late March 2016 …

mrburnette
Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:07 pm
martinayotte wrote:
<…>
Also, I’ve plegged for one PineA64, but delivery will me only late March 2016 …

stevech
Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:55 pm
I, like others, use my RPi and RPi zero “headless”, and admin it using SSH and/or VNC. For me, these are easily programmed controllers, not semi-computers.
Same might apply to all low cost SBCs that run Android or Linux.

The low cost tablets do have their place. But they lack SPI, I2C, GPIO, PWM, Input Capture, and so on, unless via an add-on board connected by USB.


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